A question about Green items - Guild Wars Forums

Djaal · Jan 11, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41

Look, first off: i am not having a moan... just want to compare notes.

in the last 4-5 days, i've collected 25 elites skills, in some areas where i know its easy, i solo run, and in some areas i take a large group of hero's and henchies.

however, not once have i picked up a green item. just wanted to know if anyone else has the same problem.

infact, to be honest, i've only picked up one green item in across prophecies and nightfall. whats going on?

what do you think?

Fallen Hunter · Jan 11, 2007, 10:51 AM // 10:51

You are most likely doing this with henches/heroes - keep in mind that they get assigned drops too. So this means that with 7 heroes+henches you have a 1/8 chance of getting the item if it drops, and of course the chance of it dropping in the first place is relatively low.

ss1986v2 · Jan 11, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

you start with a 1/8 chance if you have full party. lets just say you have a 1/10 chance in the green dropping (dont know what the actual number is, could be even less). so we see:

1/8 or 0.125 * 1/10 or 0.1 = 0.0125 or 1/80 chance! so, your chances of actually getting the green in a full team is rather small.

Arduin · Jan 11, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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Originally Posted by Djaal

in some areas where i know its easy, i solo run,

So he's not always using a full team....

For me, I've been getting quite a few greens, say about 10 in whole Elona. This is with a full team of heroes/hench. Most of them where crap however, none of them falling after Vabbi. I gave them to new Guildies/heroes, but I didn't have to farm for any of them.

Guess it's just bad luck for you...

Tiny Killer · Jan 11, 2007, 01:43 PM // 13:43

It seems to go in streaks for me. I will go long periods without getting any green drops and then, out of the blue, there will be a drop or two. It seems that some days you are the windshield, some days you are the bug.

Keithark · Jan 11, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Ever seen one boss drop 2 greens?? Happened to us last night, one for me and one for guildie, then we went straight to town and straight back out just to see if was glitch and could keep doing it and I got another one. I got screenies on my computer at home but don't know how to post them here, it was Kepkhet's Refuge, so is a common green but thought it was strange to kill a boss 2 times and get 3 greens out of it. Anyway we went out and back in and nothing

*Darcy* · Jan 11, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

I've gotten 5 green drops in 11 months, all in Factions. The middle three dropped one-a-day for three days, the last one on a green drop weekend. Nothing at all so far in Nightfall.

It's like black dye, just luck.

Cebe · Jan 11, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

I got a fair few greens with full hench teams in Elona when Nightfall came out also. I intend to take my ele round factions to collect all 92 remaining elites I don't have this weekend though...I'm willing to bet I'll get no green drops from any of those 92!!

Covah · Jan 11, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16

each henchie u have halves the drop rate. Try killing all the guys around the boss and then hurting the boss then sending all ur heros away until their names are grey, then kill him. It works.

Thibor · Jan 11, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

I got my first one a week ago in Elona. I had a full hero/hench party. Wasn't even trying for it. I was just trying to get to one of the new buired treasure spots :-)

ischuros · Jan 11, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Not every boss has a green

ss1986v2 · Jan 11, 2007, 03:15 PM // 15:15

even running solo, luck plays a huge role in green drops. example: i use to use a touch ranger to solo farm ghail (back when his staff still sold for something). i kept track and i did 47 runs over the coarse of almost 3 weeks. he never dropped it! i gave up and just bought the damn thing. then, about a week later, i taught a guildie how to run it and the strategy to kill him. it dropped for him on his first run!

and thats why im not allowed to go to vegas...

Djaal · Jan 11, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

I have to laugh, another 5 elite skills captured, and yet no prize.

I tried a run in Sunward Marches for "Reapers Sweep", no luck... took dunkoro only.

I know they are super duper rare, but there must be something wrong here.

Having played Prophecies and Nightfall, and only getting one green drop, i would have to agree with celestial beaver.

Djaal · Jan 11, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss1986v2

even running solo, luck plays a huge role in green drops. example: i use to use a touch ranger to solo farm ghail (back when his staff still sold for something). i kept track and i did 47 runs over the coarse of almost 3 weeks. he never dropped it! i gave up and just bought the damn thing. then, about a week later, i taught a guildie how to run it and the strategy to kill him. it dropped for him on his first run!

and thats why im not allowed to go to vegas...

that is harsh!!!

jcapulet · Jan 11, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

I still wonder about Factions vs. Nightfall regarding greens...I've gotten lots of greens (mostly "newbie" greens

) compared with Factions...where I've only gotten 1 green.

It must have been quite the streak of luck though...in that single Factions mission, I got Ryver's bow, black dye and a sapphire

I nearly peed myself.

Swamprob · Jan 11, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

I've run two characters completely thru prophecies and am working on Nightfall. I've seen exactly one green, which is a hammer sitting in storage. However, I never solo so that's certainly a factor.

TheRaven · Jan 11, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

I tried farming Ssaki's Sword and Geoffer's Bulwark a few weeks ago. I went out 4 henchies (sorry, I'm not good enough to solo yet) and killed both of them about 10-15 times. No luck. No greens.

I finally gave up and went back into the town. Grabbed a full team of Henchies and went back out to work on the Charting the Jade Sea quest some. I killed Geoffer and got his Bulwark immediately.

I think the powers that be just felt sorry for me.

Savio · Jan 11, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Covah

each henchie u have halves the drop rate.

No, the drop rate is just divided evenly between you and everyone else in your party, including henchmen and heroes. 3 party members = 1/3 chance, 8 party members = 1/8 chance.

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Originally Posted by Swamprobf

I've run two characters completely thru prophecies and am working on Nightfall. I've seen exactly one green, which is a hammer sitting in storage. However, I never solo so that's certainly a factor.

In Prophecies, only bosses and monsters in certain optional areas drop greens.

tommarrow · Jan 11, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

I found the easiest place to get greens was in Cantha. They seem to drop pretty easily if you try to farm them and I also got several just playing the game. Nightfall I have only 1 and I have tried to farm for them too. The one I got I wasn't even trying for.

Cebe · Jan 12, 2007, 12:05 PM // 12:05

I mastered the good old reliable Scar Eater faming months and months ago...whenever I need quick cash I pay a visit to the Bank of Scar Eater and make a "withdrawal". Once I needed some quick cash...went to my favourite bank manager...nothing...10 runs...nothing....20 runs....nothing...30 runs....nothing. I gave up. Went after him the next day...it took a further 45 runs to get him to drop his green...then he dropped it twice in a row. 75 runs with no drops is just harsh.

As I'm going for all Canthan elites this weekend...I need the Scar Eater's. Then I'll be going onto Jayne Forestlight. I will laugh SO HARD if he drops his green with a full team of henchies after I've been farming him so long!!

Jan 11, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41	#1
Djaal Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Flag Unit	A question about Green items Look, first off: i am not having a moan... just want to compare notes. in the last 4-5 days, i've collected 25 elites skills, in some areas where i know its easy, i solo run, and in some areas i take a large group of hero's and henchies. however, not once have i picked up a green item. just wanted to know if anyone else has the same problem. infact, to be honest, i've only picked up one green item in across prophecies and nightfall. whats going on? what do you think?

Jan 11, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59	#16
Swamprob Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: E/N	No luck here either I've run two characters completely thru prophecies and am working on Nightfall. I've seen exactly one green, which is a hammer sitting in storage. However, I never solo so that's certainly a factor.

Jan 12, 2007, 12:05 PM // 12:05	#20
Cebe The 5th Celestial Boss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inverness, Scotland Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO] Profession: E/	I mastered the good old reliable Scar Eater faming months and months ago...whenever I need quick cash I pay a visit to the Bank of Scar Eater and make a "withdrawal". Once I needed some quick cash...went to my favourite bank manager...nothing...10 runs...nothing....20 runs....nothing...30 runs....nothing. I gave up. Went after him the next day...it took a further 45 runs to get him to drop his green...then he dropped it twice in a row. 75 runs with no drops is just harsh. As I'm going for all Canthan elites this weekend...I need the Scar Eater's. Then I'll be going onto Jayne Forestlight. I will laugh SO HARD if he drops his green with a full team of henchies after I've been farming him so long!! Last edited by Cebe; Jan 12, 2007 at 12:09 PM // 12:09..

Jan 11, 2007, 10:51 AM // 10:51	#2
Fallen Hunter I Saw That Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The bushes Profession: D/R	You are most likely doing this with henches/heroes - keep in mind that they get assigned drops too. So this means that with 7 heroes+henches you have a 1/8 chance of getting the item if it drops, and of course the chance of it dropping in the first place is relatively low.

Jan 11, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#3
ss1986v2 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/	you start with a 1/8 chance if you have full party. lets just say you have a 1/10 chance in the green dropping (dont know what the actual number is, could be even less). so we see: 1/8 or 0.125 * 1/10 or 0.1 = 0.0125 or 1/80 chance! so, your chances of actually getting the green in a full team is rather small.

Jan 11, 2007, 01:43 PM // 13:43	#5
Tiny Killer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oshkosh, WI USA Guild: Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]	It seems to go in streaks for me. I will go long periods without getting any green drops and then, out of the blue, there will be a drop or two. It seems that some days you are the windshield, some days you are the bug.

Jan 11, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52	#6
Keithark Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO] Profession: E/Me	Ever seen one boss drop 2 greens?? Happened to us last night, one for me and one for guildie, then we went straight to town and straight back out just to see if was glitch and could keep doing it and I got another one. I got screenies on my computer at home but don't know how to post them here, it was Kepkhet's Refuge, so is a common green but thought it was strange to kill a boss 2 times and get 3 greens out of it. Anyway we went out and back in and nothing

Jan 11, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56	#7
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	I've gotten 5 green drops in 11 months, all in Factions. The middle three dropped one-a-day for three days, the last one on a green drop weekend. Nothing at all so far in Nightfall. It's like black dye, just luck.

Jan 11, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13	#8
Cebe The 5th Celestial Boss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inverness, Scotland Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO] Profession: E/	I got a fair few greens with full hench teams in Elona when Nightfall came out also. I intend to take my ele round factions to collect all 92 remaining elites I don't have this weekend though...I'm willing to bet I'll get no green drops from any of those 92!!

Jan 11, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16	#9
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	each henchie u have halves the drop rate. Try killing all the guys around the boss and then hurting the boss then sending all ur heros away until their names are grey, then kill him. It works.

Jan 11, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19	#10
Thibor Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: A Circle of Ravens Profession: W/	I got my first one a week ago in Elona. I had a full hero/hench party. Wasn't even trying for it. I was just trying to get to one of the new buired treasure spots :-)

Jan 11, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32	#11
ischuros Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Profession: N/Me	Not every boss has a green

Jan 11, 2007, 03:15 PM // 15:15	#12
ss1986v2 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/	even running solo, luck plays a huge role in green drops. example: i use to use a touch ranger to solo farm ghail (back when his staff still sold for something). i kept track and i did 47 runs over the coarse of almost 3 weeks. he never dropped it! i gave up and just bought the damn thing. then, about a week later, i taught a guildie how to run it and the strategy to kill him. it dropped for him on his first run! and thats why im not allowed to go to vegas...

Jan 11, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20	#13
Djaal Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Flag Unit	I have to laugh, another 5 elite skills captured, and yet no prize. I tried a run in Sunward Marches for "Reapers Sweep", no luck... took dunkoro only. I know they are super duper rare, but there must be something wrong here. Having played Prophecies and Nightfall, and only getting one green drop, i would have to agree with celestial beaver.

Jan 11, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30	#15
jcapulet Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2006	I still wonder about Factions vs. Nightfall regarding greens...I've gotten lots of greens (mostly "newbie" greens ) compared with Factions...where I've only gotten 1 green. It must have been quite the streak of luck though...in that single Factions mission, I got Ryver's bow, black dye and a sapphire I nearly peed myself.

Jan 11, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07	#17
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	I tried farming Ssaki's Sword and Geoffer's Bulwark a few weeks ago. I went out 4 henchies (sorry, I'm not good enough to solo yet) and killed both of them about 10-15 times. No luck. No greens. I finally gave up and went back into the town. Grabbed a full team of Henchies and went back out to work on the Charting the Jade Sea quest some. I killed Geoffer and got his Bulwark immediately. I think the powers that be just felt sorry for me.

Jan 11, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11	#19
tommarrow Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Shyft Machine [MYTH] Profession: E/	I found the easiest place to get greens was in Cantha. They seem to drop pretty easily if you try to farm them and I also got several just playing the game. Nightfall I have only 1 and I have tried to farm for them too. The one I got I wasn't even trying for.